9. Noll-Unger

noll unger geno Noll Unger genealogical tree, click to enlarge.

 

noll family The Noll Family.

János Noll and Victoria Unger were born in Hungary. They married in Körmend the 27th of April 1914.They had 5 children.

Almost all of the Nolls siblings married people from the same town or neighboring ones. How did my grandfather János met my grandmother Viktoria? They were from cities wide apart. They married in Körmend (the bride's hometown) the 27th of April 1914 and most probably the newlyweds went to his hometown, Maráza, where their first daughter was born. They left Maráza and went about 30 km north to Hidashollos, where the two following boys were born. Finally they settled in Körmend, where the Ungers and great-grandma Emerencia Pados lived, and there the youngest ones where born.

Noll János és Unger Viktória Magyarországon születtek 1914. április 27-én házasodtak össze Körmenden. Öt gyermekük született.

Valamennyi Noll ugyanabból a városból vagy a vele szomszédos településekr?l házasodott. Milyen körülmények között találkozott János nagyapám Viktória nagymamámmal? Hiszen egymástól távol fekv? városból valóak voltak. Körmenden házasodtak össze, a menyasszony szül?városában 1914. április 27-én, és valószín?leg a fiatal házaspár Marázára, a férj szül?városába költözött, ahol világra jött elsö leánygyermekük. Aztán elköltöztek Marázáról a 30 km-rel északabbra fekv? Hidashollósra, ahol még két gyermekük, két fiú gyermekük jött világra.Végül Körmenden telepedtek le, ott élt Pados Emerencia, a dédnagymama. Ott született meg két legfiatalabb gyermekük.

 

maraza to hidashollos Maráza to Hidashollos, click to enlarge.
hidashollos to kormend Hidashollós (Alternate name is Hidas) to Körmend, click to enlarge.

 

Childhood in Hungary

 

iparos dalarda Iparos Dalarda, click to enlarge.

 

La traducción de Iparos, sería algo asi como la cofradía de los oficios y dalarda sería coro. Nunca supe de que mi abuelo tocase algún instrumento o cantase, pero ello sucedió en el ańo 1923 !!!!

uri es noi fodrasz Uri es noi fodrasz, click to enlarge.

 

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El Imperio Austro-Húngaro le declara la guerra a Rusia el 1ş de agosto de 1914. Contraen matrimonio el 27 de Abril de 1914.

Presumiblemente en Körmend (no encuentro la partida en los archivos de Körmend).

Veré de ubicar el tipo de uniforme de abuelo, aunque él decia que sirvió en el ejercito, pero como peluquero de la tropa.

 

El 6 de junio de 1927 abuelo sale del puerto de Bremen y arriba a Uruguay el 29 de agosto de 1927.

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postal de abuela a abuelo 1928 Click to enlarge.

 

Postal enviada por abuela Victoria a abuelo Juan, el 24 de mayo de 1928. Menciona en la misma a un tal Vendel, de quien encontré una foto, pero no puedo relacionarlo.

 

En noviembre de 1928, abuela Victoria sale del puerto de Génova, sola, arribando a Montevideo el 4 de diciembre de 1928

flia en hungria Family photo, click to enlarge.

 

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24 mobiliario peluqueria kormend Mobiliario peluqueria kormend, click to enlarge.

 

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My grandfather was a hairdresser in the WW1 and also in his private life.

When they migrated to Uruguay, all the hairdresser salon furniture came with them to Uruguay and also their bedroom furniture.

abuela y mami Click to enlarge.

 


 

27 logo from our family booklet
28 logo from our family booklet

 

family booklet 01 The new world, click to enlarge
libro familiar 01 El nuevo mundo, clic para ampliar.

 

carrasco hotel Click to enlarge.

 

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La foto impresiona como tomada en las Canteras del Parque Rodó, deduzco circa 1930. Cuando regresaban a Hungria? Con amigos?

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Atrás de la foto figura la siguiente escritura: "zetan készult mikor haza mentunk". La foto es en el Puerto de Montevideo.

Despidiéndose de amigos al regresar ambos a Hungria?

barcelona 1930 Click to enlarge.

 

Atrás de la foto figura: "Emlék Barczellonálrol ezt csinalteck.". Que hacian en el 1930 mis abuelos en Barcelona?

Mi mejor deducción supones que habiendo ganado la loteria, deciden volver a Hungria.Superado el problema económico, toman el primer vapor que los lleva a Europa y recalan en Barcelona, desde donde luego habrán seguido viaje terrestre a Hungria.

 

El 8 de octubre de 1930, toda la familia sale del puerto de Génova, arribando a Montevideo el 22 de octubre de 1930.

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Se trasladaron desde Körmend a Génova via terrestre? Cómo saberlo? En el pasaporte hay un sello que supongo de aduanas donde figura su paso por lo que era en aquel momento Yugoeslavia.

family booklet 02 Click to enlarge.
libro familiart 02 Clic para ampliar.

 

En Uruguay

A menos de un mes de la llegada, 19 de noviembre de 1930, instala la peluqueria de damas en la esquina de Williman y Montero.

 

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No logro identificar la fecha de esta foto. Despidiendo o recibiendo amigos?

 

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posible hna abuelo 2 Click to enlarge.

 

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calle williman 508 Clic para ampliar.

 

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a la escuela Click to enlarge.

 

family booklet Click to enlarge.
libro familiar Clic para ampliar.

 

teatro hungaro Click to enlarge.

 

family booklet primera comunion Click to enlarge.
libro familiar primera comunion Clic para ampliar.

 

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interior peluqueria 1937 Click to enlarge.

 

Maria se habia casado en el ańo 1934 y el 29 de noviembre del ańo 1939, se casa Laszló, siendo su regalo de bodas la peluqueria, en la cual pasa a ser dueńo y Maria, la hermana mayor, su empleada. Juan se retira y al ańo siguiente se casa.

Abuelo Juan Noll y abuela Victoria, con los 2 hijos menores (Francisco 15 y mami 13) , se mudan a la calle Joanicó y a la vuelta de su vivienda, abuelo abre una nueva peluqueria, ubicada en: 8 de octubre 3618 bis.

Me dice una de mis tias Gorfain, que ella los recuerda en el ańo 1943, que se conocieron mis padres, viviendo en el mismo local de la peluqueria.

Hasta su cierre definitivo, alrededor del ańo 1944, que se mudan a 25 de Agosto.

Mi madre se casa el 18 de julio de 1943, Francisco no quiere irse con ellos y queda viviendo con su hermano László y cuńada.

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joanico st house Click to enlarge.
casa de la calle joanico Clic para ampliar.

 

Noll siblings

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Noll Unger: Mariska branch

domenyik noll geno Click to enlarge.

 

maria y julio Maria y Julio, click to enlarge.

 

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Noll Unger: János branch

noll hekmann geno János branch, click to enlarge.

 

Juan Juan
Juan and Boszi wedding Juan and Boszi wedding

 

Juan and auntie Boszi Juan and auntie Boszi
Auntie Boszi Auntie Boszi

 

The eldest of the boys, János, was born in Hidashollos, Hungary, the 15th of April 1916 and passed away of a heart attack, the 25th of February 1972, in Montevideo

The 7th of September 1940, he married with Erzebeth Hekman Tilki.

As a woman's hairdresser, he worked first with his father and then in a salon placed in "Diaz Palace" that was in 18 de julio 1333. Then he opened his own hairdresser salon, along with two partners (Andres and Feri) in "Colonia street"

 

My auntie Böszi

 

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99 hekmann tilki geno. Hekmann Tilki gealogical tree, click to enlarge.

 

hekmann tilki family. Hekmann Tilki family, click to enlarge.

 

margit and boszis. Hekmann Tilki sisters, click to enlarge.

 

Note:

I guess I just get carried away with the genealogical bug !! When looking for data about my auntie´s ascendants, found out also her extended family. Hope this information will be useful to somebody !!!!

 

father side ascendants. Father´s side ascendants, click to enlarge.

 

mother side ascendants Mother´s side ascendants, click to enlarge.

 

boszi 2nd marriage. Böszi 2nd marriage, click to enlarge.

 

Mi second uncle Juan was called Juan Keinbaun.

He came to Uruguay in July 1925 as a mechanic. He passed away the 13th of may 2002

Being a widow, mi auntie Boszi continued living on her own.Later on, she met a nice man, hungarian and a widower too and they decided to get married My parents were witnesses at the civil ceremony. They went to live in a beautiful tiny apartment just in front of "Parque Rodo" (Luna Park).

Once, my sister with her two kids, that in that time were living in Australia, came to visit us. All the family wanted to say hello to them, so we went to Juan and Böszi's home for lunch

When the kids saw the view from one of the windows "The Ramirez beach seaside" plus "The Luna Park", they both said: " how I would love to live in a place like this !!! " And that was one of the reasons we ended up buying an apartment in the same building, same floor.

And that was why when another apartment came for sale, we bought it, in the hope that one day , they will come back to Uruguay

And that was why, when finallly they came back, the apartment was free and my auntie, my sister and us lived in a beautiful sorrounding and were always together.

 

Noll Unger: Lászlo branch

noll sichert geno. Lászlo branch, click to enlarge.
wedding Roszi and Laszlo wedding, click to enlarge.

 

The third of 5 siblings, Lászlo (Ladislao) Noll was born in Hidashollos, Hungría, the 29th of Ocotber 1918 and passed away in Montevideo, the 1st of June 1996

The 26th of november 1939, he married Rozsi Sichert Kiss, born in Oradea Mare, Hungary the 16th of April (due to geographical changes in history, she was considered Rumanian instead of Hungarian)

They had two daughters: Magdalena (Muńeca), born the 11th of December 1941 and Ana Maria, born 30th of November 1946. Both passed away.

 

El tercero de 5 hermanos, Lászlo (Ladislao) Noll nació en Hidashollos, Hungría, el 29 de octubre de 1918 y falleció en Montevideo, el 01 de junio de 1996.

El 26 de noviembre de 1939, se casa con Rozsi Sichert Kiss, nacida en Oradea Mare, Hungria (cambios de frontera en la epoca la ubican como rumana) el 16 de abril de 1920.

De dicha unión nacen dos hijas: Magdalena (Muńeca), nacida el 11 de diciembre de 1941 y Ana Maria, nacida el 30 de noviembre de 1946.

 

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Noll Unger: Ferenc branch

noll pomothy geno Ferenc branch, click to enlarge.

 

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Betty Betty
Betty's comunion Betty's comunion

 

Noll Unger: Ilonka branch

Ilonka branch. Ilonka branch, click to enlarge.

 

Ricardo Salomón Gorfain Schuster was born in Cuba, on the 4th of May 1920. He arrived in Uruguay with his parents and the rest of the family in 1930.

Elena Inés Noll Unger was born in Körmend, Hungary, on the 18th of July 1926. She arrived in Uruguay with her parents and the rest of the family in 1930.

They met for the first time at the Hungarian Club and a couple of months later were married.

Ricardo and Elena were married on the 15th of July 1943, in a civil ceremony.

They had two daughters:

Elena passed away on February 1st, 1989, from cancer

Vicky is single.

Ann Shirley is married and has two sons: Alain Antoine and Christian Dave

Christian is single.

Alain is married and have two beautiful girls: our sunshines Chiara Elena and Sophia.

 

114 Ricardo and Elena
115 Elena and Ricardo

 

116 Ricardo and Elena, Montecarlo, June 1980
117 Elena and Ricardo, Torremolinos, July 1983

 

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